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encrypted
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Posted - 19 Aug 2007 :  13:26:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheers pestech. I am in West London and I cantacted a chap off these forums today. He'll be coming over later this week with some heavy duty traps.

The major problem is access to the area they have moved in to - I can't get at it from the inside without taking a 2 brick thick wall down and I'd need scaffolding to get at from the outside.

Last week I did see them running around the back of the garden and along the fences. With the rain we have been having I haven't seen them much in the garden. I have put the trap at the front of the house near a path they use to get up to the bay window - but they seem to use may routes - mostly along the top of the fences making it difficult to place the trap.

I also put some diced apples in the cage - i have heard that these and peanut butter work. I'm going to try some feeding nuts given what you and the guy helping me on these forums has suggested.
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vermincontrol
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Aug 2007 :  19:36:20  Show Profile  Visit vermincontrol's Homepage  Reply with Quote
never used peanut butter for the job, always use a bit of mars bar inside the cage and a sprinkling if nuts outside, with a slightly heavier sprinkle leading into the cage, i set the trap as fine as i can, and leave it in the run or where they are known to play. leave the cage well alone and dont keep moving it or your smells will be on the cage and you wont have a chance in hell, if you go for the kania dont put it on the top of the plasterboard or it may be in the bedroom when it goes off, place it on a board.

Steve
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encrypted
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Posted - 19 Aug 2007 :  20:33:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks - I think it'll be a couple of fenns that this chap has.

Just trying bait (mixed bird nuts) at the mo to see if they are taking it - importantly to see if they are squeezing in to the loft space on the inside (currently they are on the space on the outside on top of the bay window).

Just had a thought. If the infants are born and the mother is going out to get the food, and if I kill the mother, then wont the infants be trapped in the bay area? thats the last thing i want!

how far does a mother stray from infants to get food? i've heard the father buggers off once the infants are born so assuming mother gets the food?
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encrypted
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Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  16:17:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Caught a squirrel in a cage trap this morning - picked the trap up with a long stick to drop in it to a bucket of water but the cage didn't quite fit! (should have checked before). The squirrel was moving about quite a bit so it was hard to balance. Anyway, in the hussle and bussle the trap door opened and the darn thing escaped - i was so gutted.

The noise this morning was the worst it has ever been - sounded like they were going to come through the ceiling.

I'm leaving some bait out in the same places and they are still taking it. Wont put the cage out as they probably know to stay away from it. Will wait for the Fenns to arrive.

Considering investing in a small riffle to rid these and future vermin - the bait areas are in corners with high walls make it suitable to shoot at with a low power riffle.
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Matt the Rat
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Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  16:28:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is a fine example of why a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Drowning was outlawed a number of years ago because it is cruel.

You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself
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Iain
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United Kingdom
404 Posts

Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  18:47:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Absolutely Matt!

I think that this is an object lesson to us all. Whilst we can try to give advice to members of the public that come onto this Forum, we run the risk of passing just enough information to give them a false sense of being capable of 'doing it themselves'.

How many times do we say "get a professional pest controller in!"

And why do we say that?

Because you will get someone who will not only have all the necessary eqyuipment but will know how to use it - effectively, safely, humanely and above all - legally! That's because they will have invested considerable time and money in being trained to do the job!

As for the 'low power' rifle - don't even think about going down that route. Have you any idea what really, really deep s..t you could be getting into?

The Police only thought that innocent Brazilian was armed!

GET A PROFESSIONAL PEST CONTROLLER IN and let them get on with the job.
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Paulf
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Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  18:59:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The squirel would probably have been easy to catch initially using carfull trap placement and trap choice. Now you have a trap shy squirel that will be farr harder to catch.

Save the money you were thinking of spending on the air rifle and use it to get a profeshional company in.

I did a wasp nest today in a loft, it was the wife who was aranging it as her husband was in a&e; after being repeatedly stung whilst trying to treat a large wasp nest with 'wasp foam' and the aid of a 1 million candle power torch!
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encrypted
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Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  20:14:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheers guys - point taken.

Didn't realise that drowning was illegal - I certainly won't be attempting that again (it was recommended by a local who leant me the trap and a number of other people who have DIY'd).

How much does it typically cost to get rid of them? I have my decorator lined up to seal the gap but need to get rid of them first.

Money is extremely tight and I can't afford to pay and not have the problem fixed. A chap from here has very kindly agreed to lend some Fenns, its just today I couldn't sleep since 5am due to all the banging and decided to catch one.

BTW, not meaning to undermine anyone's profession.
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dl
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  21:27:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i would call in a pro .go for a 1man band. you will get a great /cheap service .good luck.

never cut corners
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wildman
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Aug 2007 :  12:57:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
dl

I can't believe you've written what you have '...call in a pro. go for a 1 man band. You will get a great/cheap service'.....using your philosophy encrypted will need all the '...good luck' he can get. How about referals, BPCA membership (or the like). Remember what CHEAP means. Oh and don't forget - never cut corners!!!!!!!!!!


Tired and shagged out
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dl
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Posted - 22 Aug 2007 :  19:49:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wildman he is beter of using a small outfit saves paying large company overheads. im sure he will get a great service at a low cost .

never cut corners
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dl
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Posted - 22 Aug 2007 :  20:25:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wildman
he is beter of using a small outfit saves paying large company overheads. im sure he will get a great service at a low cost .
encrypted
ensure your pest controller is fully insured go through your yellow pages
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Paul W
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Aug 2007 :  21:31:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by encrypted

Cheers guys - point taken.

Didn't realise that drowning was illegal - I certainly won't be attempting that again (it was recommended by a local who leant me the trap and a number of other people who have DIY'd).

How much does it typically cost to get rid of them? I have my decorator lined up to seal the gap but need to get rid of them first.

Money is extremely tight and I can't afford to pay and not have the problem fixed. A chap from here has very kindly agreed to lend some Fenns, its just today I couldn't sleep since 5am due to all the banging and decided to catch one.

BTW, not meaning to undermine anyone's profession.



Stop being so bloody tight! Money is an issue for many people but if it means going without a beer or two for a few weeks then it's a small sacrifice.
You pay for a decorator i presume? but wont pay for a pest control technician
If you do something cheap you always do it twice,or more! If you want the squirrels gone then save yourself the hassle and get a man/woman who knows what they are doing,i would not mess with electrics/plumbing as i know very little about it and would probably make things worse! Which is what you have done by educating the squirrel you tried to drown! Quite unlikely to be trapped again and will also educate any further offspring too
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wildman
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Posted - 23 Aug 2007 :  10:15:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here, here.......

Tired and shagged out
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drummer
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Posted - 23 Aug 2007 :  14:28:29  Show Profile  Visit drummer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
well said that man people do not mind paying plummers x amount just for looking but will not pay us to do what we are trained to do
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pestech
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Aug 2007 :  19:04:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Matt the Rat

This is a fine example of why a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Drowning was outlawed a number of years ago because it is cruel.

You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself



as much as it pains me to say it i also have to agree with you there matt

i do hope the public are reading this thread to see how terribly wrong things can go by taking matters into their own hands when life could of been so much simpler by calling in a proffesional pest controler in the first place.
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Matt the Rat
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Posted - 23 Aug 2007 :  20:32:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It had to happen sooner or later Mark!

Most posters seem to share my disgust at this thread. I only hope that something good comes out of it and we remember this when another tight fisted member of the public appears on here asking us to solve their problem free of charge.

Edited by - Matt the Rat on 23 Aug 2007 20:33:41
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encrypted
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Posted - 23 Aug 2007 :  21:17:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Come on guys, give me a break.

My only mistake was that I didn't realise that drowning was illegal and just as well I didn't do it.

Evidently this is a forum that is for professional pest controllers who, mostly as it seems, condemn anyone who tries to take pest control into their own hands, which would lead to a loss in revenue for your profession. At least this makes me appreciate the DIY, car mechanics, computer and finance sites that I visit and get tons of free advice that has saved me so much over the years - and yes, I have made mistakes in all those areas, but who doesn't make mistakes?

I suppose my other mistake was coming here in the first place because, with the exception of one very kind gentleman and a few others, you all seem to have let your 'overt hunter mentality' slip in to your posts. Kind of good I suppose because when you have a passion for your job it tends to show in pretty much everything you do in life. Well that's one way of looking at it.

Anyway, I won't waste your time anymore - even if that would have ever meant paying for your services.

A genuine thanks to the guys who have helped me out and not been hell-bent on beating a dead snake.
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