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moleproblem
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 Posted - 09 Feb 2008 : 09:21:18
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| hi we have a mole problem on our land what im wanting to know is is it legal to gas moles useing a engine ie a car (petrol without a cat) iv used the gassing tablets before but wondered if this other methered had been tryed or if it was legal. im sure it would be humain and probly more efective than the pellets and also shoulnt harm any other animals other than anything in the runs? any help would be good as iv more mole hills than grass!!!! |
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NickA
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United Kingdom
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moleproblem
New Member
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Posted - 09 Feb 2008 : 09:39:10
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| where can i find it in writeing? |
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nigel
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moleproblem
New Member
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Posted - 09 Feb 2008 : 10:18:42
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seen that still there not saying anything about useing a engine more pellets i know thay use carbon dioxid on day old chicks and its very quick and efective. thanks anyway
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nigel
Hyperactive Member
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Posted - 09 Feb 2008 : 10:27:02
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| So what chemicals do you think an engine kicks out that may kill moles? |
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The Spotlight Kid
Hyperactive Member
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Posted - 09 Feb 2008 : 10:34:59
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| It will depend on how many Moles Per Gallon your car does. |
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moleproblem
New Member
12 Posts |
Posted - 09 Feb 2008 : 12:10:04
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| carbon monoxid !!!!! as long as there is no cat fitted |
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Iain
Moderator
United Kingdom
539 Posts |
Posted - 09 Feb 2008 : 13:19:00
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You would be using carbon dioxide as a pesticide in this instance. All pesticides have to be Approved for Use under the Control of Pesticides Regulations (COPR) 1986.
Carbon Dioxide is not Approved for Use under these Regulations, so is illegal - full stop.
You say that you've used gassing tablets before so I presume that you've been trained in their use - otherwise you would have been breaking the Law - so surely you've heard of COPR? |
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andyb
Senior Member
United Kingdom
295 Posts |
Posted - 09 Feb 2008 : 14:38:31
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"Carbon Dioxide is not Approved for Use under these Regulations, so is illegal - full stop."
The big R use CO2 in their radar rat and mouse traps.
carbon Monoxcide from exhaust fumes.
ANDY B
www.abcomplete.co.uk |
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Iain
Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Feb 2008 : 14:57:24
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Apologies.
Carbon Monoxide is not Approved for Use as a pesticide.
Rentokil's devices which use Carbon Dioxide have been Approved.
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Bunny
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Feb 2008 : 15:17:53
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Stop wasting your time lads,
If you read carefully I think you will see as I do that the gentleman consulting you is attempting to justify the method and will probably go ahead whatever you say. You don`t know where they are based so no real problems there then.
I have just come back from an old gamekeeper friends house and he has told me that lately he witnessed another gamekeeper dipping jaguar blocks in honey and rolling them down badger setts (that takes care of them)apparently. legal or not it does`nt matter if you do not get caught.
If ever the need for licencing was more apparent, this is probably more to do with saving the money on alumiminium phosphide tablets than any real question on legalities.
Just my view, but the more I see the more I am incensed. Why do the job properly ourselves when the tools we use can be missused with impunity?
Bunny
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NickA
Hyperactive Member
United Kingdom
1371 Posts |
Posted - 09 Feb 2008 : 15:19:46
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Bunny.
Well said
It's finally happened, I agree with Tony.
Must go and sit down.
Pests are smart - We're smarter
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moleproblem
New Member
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Posted - 09 Feb 2008 : 18:51:46
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| i was simply asking a question and yes i have been on a couse for use of alumiminium phosphide tablets (though not sure you have to as any farmer can buy them)and thats what i use but it was just a idea to yes save money but also it may be quicker in killing the moles as the gas is more intense. |
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dorsetogg
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Feb 2008 : 22:59:15
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| knock off the mole hills leave two days , see were the moles are active and trap out with traps, may take a bit of time but is legal.I have had great success with trapping out large areas of land. You can buy a lot of traps at good discounts.lets do the job right. The ogg |
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scubaferrett
Junior Member
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Posted - 10 Feb 2008 : 10:41:55
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mole problem
Please send me your details i have my weekly meeting with defra on monday i will quite happily pass on your concerns ,
and then stand back and watch th s"""" hit the fan ,
as has been said it is illeagle and earth worms contaminated by any gas ,can have serious repercussions on native birds life
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mole trapper
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Posted - 10 Feb 2008 : 11:20:47
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Posted - 09 Feb 2008 : 22:59:15
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knock off the mole hills leave two days , see were the moles are active and trap out with traps, may take a bit of time but is legal.I have had great success with trapping out large areas of land. You can buy a lot of traps at good discounts.lets do the job right. The ogg
Well said that man, not sure about knocking the hills over before trapping, i usually advise the customer to do this after i have cleared the moles.
As for taking a bit of time, i am not so sure, as you know once you get good at trapping you get pretty quick also, the time it takes to put pills throughout a set i can have two good set traps in the ground, which incidently will guarenteed kill the mole in residence, even at this time of year when the bucks are not always at home, because when he comes back my trap will still be waiting unlike the gas or CAR FUMES which will have long gone.
Good on you OGG.
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moleproblem
New Member
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Posted - 10 Feb 2008 : 20:21:00
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| scubaferret it was just a question!!!!! as fot what i wil do i will try alumiminium phosphide tablets yet again and if that fails ill get some traps!!!!! |
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scubaferrett
Junior Member
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Posted - 11 Feb 2008 : 10:29:58
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mole problem .
i applaude your decision ,however carnt help wondering as to why you would think that it was a vialbe option in the first place.
if we as proffessionals can not follow the rules then how can we complain when amertures get it wrong .
Regards
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ben
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Feb 2008 : 21:35:10
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yes i have been on a couse for use of alumiminium phosphide tablets (though not sure you have to as any farmer can buy them)
so any farmer can buy them hey is this couse or no couse, let me guess!
ag strikes again.
you learn as you go |
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moleproblem
New Member
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Posted - 13 Feb 2008 : 22:21:15
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| ??? ment course |
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mole control gassing?
