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andyb
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 10 Nov 2006 : 18:42:16
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As you know, due to some dodgey emails I received when previously using this forum I deleted my posting. However I feel that the Pheonix needs to rise on this subject.
The product has obviously been trialed before release, the trials must have been good or it would not have been released. Best we watch and see what results are coming back from the Industry. Foraging pellets could just be the answer to those jobs that just chucking a bit of bait around wont cure the problem. Give it a go.
Thank you Iain for the invite to join the Barrettine Forum.
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ABPest
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Nov 2006 : 10:04:30
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We need to get out of the deep red sea, and into the deep blue ocean. We need to get out of the silo, define the box and then think outside the box. Push our envelopes and leverage our resouces, start blue sky thinking, thus transitioning to joined up factoring, by conveyor belt science. Only then will we fly with the eagles!
What am I talking about? Well Dusty and Nigel will know 
I haven't a clue
But congratulations to Sorex for attempting something different.
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ben
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Nov 2006 : 15:09:02
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i understood every word of that!
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nigel
Senior Member
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Posted - 11 Nov 2006 : 19:49:08
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Sadly Adrian, it is products like this that potentially help keep you in the deep dark sea!
It is your understanding, knowledge and skill of any given situation that will bring you long term solutions for your customers problems, not products used, these only offer short term relief.
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ABPest
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Nov 2006 : 12:30:50
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Nigel, hopefully you are recommending something called Integrated Pest Management ( you may call it something else! ).
Even with IPM there is an important role for pesticides, and when there is a need, then it should be a product that is eaten/taken up quickly, leading to a quicker more humane death, removing the risk of zoonose transmission asap.
There is another factor that is very important in pest management. The CUSTOMER. The customer has an expectation ( indeed a right ) that the pests are controlled as efficiently and effectively as possible. Control may be desirable along with investigations as to how and why the pests have arrived and before proofing, habitat manipulation, environmental changes etc.
Just a thought as to why research into more effective/efficient pesticides should continue.
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nigel
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Posted - 12 Nov 2006 : 16:16:05
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Adrian, it is like a light has been finally switched on.
I have been using IPM for over 13 years now, it what allows me to sort out the problems that others only treat year after year.
It does not involve the unneccessary use of poisons and relies more on proofing and educating customers to understand what it is that is causing their problem. It is what allows me to sort out at least 95% of all rat jobs I come across, once and for all if the customer follows the advice given or the proofing is done.
If you think about it, if customers understood why they got rats in the first place, they would not need our services!!!!!!!! but because they do not, they need us.
I find it hard to understand why it takes some a month or more to shift rats from some situations, when in the majority of cases it could be done in just 2-3 weeks and I personally probably only come a cross 1 job in every 200-300 where such novel baits would actually help speed up treatment, if people are finding that they need such products at every job, then they are doing something wrong. learn from your mistakes and improve, do not keep making the same mistakes.
People may ridicule my comments and remarks, water off a ducks back, reading some posts, they are where I was 20 years ago.
I have not said that it is your training that fails you? You are not taught what you need to know.
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ben
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Nov 2006 : 18:05:08
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we all use ipm but your not telling us all you customers follow though with all advice given.
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nigel
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Posted - 12 Nov 2006 : 19:50:08
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| At present I have only one such customer on my books, he has been told for the first time in 10 years that his business has been running as to why he gets rats but todate he has failed to address the problem. As soon as he follows the advice that is on his inspection reports he will also find that he stops getting them but that is his choice at least I have given him the information. |
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New Rodent Control Technology from Sorex
