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ratsroaches
New Member
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 Posted - 16 May 2007 : 22:36:59
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Hi Everyone,
Just looking in to buying a van and I notice that a lot of small vans have windows in the back. Speaking to friends in general, they tell me that vans get broken into an awful lot.
Obviously this concerns me given the potential dangers of poisoning especially if it is kids breaking in as will often be the case.
What do people do or suggest to really make a van which has windows in the back much more secure?
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Dusty
Hyperactive Member
Australia
524 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2007 : 05:10:45
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Jonathan, I personally would use a ute rather than a van and have large locked tool boxes to store baits and insecticides etc.
Have seen pics of High's van and it is a credit, but still wonder what would happen if it went arse over head in a collision. Various forms of product possibly spilt, and perhaps even worse, mixing together. If it was to happen, would much prefer me to be in the cab and the product in locked boxes bolted to the tray of the ute.
Don't feed them, get Rid of them - visit us on www.ridpest.com.au |
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vermincontrol
Senior Member
United Kingdom
136 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2007 : 07:48:10
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what most do is to put the advertising over the windows so that they cannot be seen from the outside, no windows is always better, but saying that my van has no windows and it was broken into, not for the pest control products but for building equipment. however i have yet to find an insurance company that does not charge the earth to cover the costs of the equipment and chemicals whilst the are on board the van.
and so the majority of people just dont bother insuring the items. and so the next headache is that you will have to allow extra time in the morning to load the van and equally as much time to unload it. Or just take a chance, but you may find it difficult to claim against any losses for items of work in the vehicle wherever it is, the insurance companies will only insure the vehicle.
next problem is that if you had an accident where does your vehicle go with the chemicals and equipment on board, i have just rejoined the RAC for that reason, ie if i have an accident they will bring my vehicle to my storage area or home so that i can unload it whilst waiting for the insurance company to arrange pick up for the repairs to be carried out.
So as you see no windows prevents people looking in but no windows does not stop them. Chances are that your insurance company will say that if you leave items on board and in view, that you are not trying to keep the items out of view thus you are encouraging crime by leaving the items on show, therefore they will not meet the claim.
Just food for thought based on my own experiences of accidents and break ins to my vehicles used for commercial use.
Steve
It Has 2 Be Done Pest Control
www.ithas2bedone.co.uk
www.ithas2bedone.com
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ratsroaches
New Member
17 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2007 : 10:13:08
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Thanks for your replies.
Could I ask Dusty what a UTE is please? |
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vermincontrol
Senior Member
United Kingdom
136 Posts |
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vermincontrol
Senior Member
United Kingdom
136 Posts |
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Bob Staines
Senior Member
United Kingdom
153 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2007 : 11:41:20
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had to laugh at the "ute" mention it took me back a few years........ "wheres me ute ? ya flamin golart" soz about the accent lol |
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Dusty
Hyperactive Member
Australia
524 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2007 : 13:21:45
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Ute as in Utility truck. Another Ozzie invention
Don't feed them, get Rid of them - visit us on www.ridpest.com.au |
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Bob Staines
Senior Member
United Kingdom
153 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2007 : 14:45:50
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Another Ozzie invention
yeah, that and neighbours |
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Dusty
Hyperactive Member
Australia
524 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2007 : 23:47:13
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Well Bob, we needed revenge for Coronation Street lol
Don't feed them, get Rid of them - visit us on www.ridpest.com.au |
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ratsroaches
New Member
17 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2007 : 19:39:44
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Lets say I use an estate car or a four by four off road type vehicle.
The concern that I have is that kids will break in and get poisoned because they steal the poisons. Even if you have locked toolboxes the kids might steal these and break into them at home.
Whats the best way to secure my poisons in an estate car not so much in terms of the financial loss to myself but more from the point of view of health and safety of others (including the little horrors who break in)
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vermincontrol
Senior Member
United Kingdom
136 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2007 : 19:48:19
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you will actually find that they are not insured if they are in your vehicle unless you pay a lot of extra dosh to do so. ans as far as security goes take them out at night or when the vehicle is not in use it is the only way to be secure.
Steve
It Has 2 Be Done Pest Control
www.ithas2bedone.co.uk
www.ithas2bedone.com
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The Spotlight Kid
Senior Member
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Posted - 24 May 2007 : 23:14:49
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If kids break in, steal your poisons and get poisoned I'd call that justice! If we have to add that sort of thing to our risk assessment we wouldn't get out of bed in the morning.
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vermincontrol
Senior Member
United Kingdom
136 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2007 : 06:29:44
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nevertheless it is a fact of life, then we have to account for why it is in the vehicle overnight etc etc. if you had read my thread on the break in that i had in my van overnight, and the hassle that followed you would understand a bit more of the problems. i have had to unload the vehicle ever since and put in security cameras as a precautionary measure.
Steve
It Has 2 Be Done Pest Control
www.ithas2bedone.co.uk
www.ithas2bedone.com
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The Spotlight Kid
Senior Member
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Posted - 25 May 2007 : 07:41:17
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| I can apreciate what a pain that is VC but the point I was making was that that the victims of theft should not have to consider the H&S; requirements of the thief. Call me old fashioned but if a burglar slits his wrists on my broken window as he clambers through uninvited then I'm not exactly going to be overwhelmed with grief. |
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vermincontrol
Senior Member
United Kingdom
136 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2007 : 18:04:51
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hi sk i can assure you that i am in total agreement with you cos having been the wrong end of robberies in both my shop and in this business i have too many broken bones inflicted upon me from others to worry about their h&s.; so much so that i stayed up most of the night after the second attempted theft and was waiting.
I certainly would not have required the help of the law as they are generally not as effecient as a piece of 4x2 or my wife with a snooker cue. i would of loved to of seen someone snort ficam instead of coke just to see the effect, then i would of slapped them.
nevertheless sympathetic or not if the law is called then we have to account as to why it was not under lock and key instead of being in the van.
stupid as it may seem. after all if the van is locked then it would probably be as safe as in the garage.
Steve
It Has 2 Be Done Pest Control
www.ithas2bedone.co.uk
www.ithas2bedone.com
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Security for Poisons and Equipment in Vans
