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pestech
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Dec 2005 :  21:10:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
took on a job today, customer complaing of rodent movement in their loft space, my first thought was squirrles, then as i pondered more about the problem, and as im from Herts, bout 5 miles from Tring to be excact i remembered we have in our area the Glis Glis aka the edible door mouse,after a good look around in the loft, i found a small harbourage, but nobody was home! lots of droppings but ive never seen glis glis droppings so i cant compare them with squirrel pooh! so ive set 3 cage traps in the loft space, 2 baited for squirrels and one baited for Glis Glis, my problem is ive found out that these distructive little critters are a protected species, and obviously cant be dispatched, and its ilegal to re-locate an animal, so what am i to do with them if i find i have a glis glis in the cage tomorrow? do i just let it go in the garden with the hope it doesnt find its way back into the loft? or is there some sort of organisation that anyones aware of that can releve me of the beast? or an alternative solution.

Edited by - pestech on 05 Dec 2005 21:11:26

nigel
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Posted - 05 Dec 2005 :  21:33:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Take a look here;
http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-countryside/vertebrates/glisglis.htm
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pestech
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United Kingdom
133 Posts

Posted - 05 Dec 2005 :  21:57:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for the link
looks like ill have to give them a call tomorrow as all the info i find is very vague

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Fenn Man
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Posted - 05 Dec 2005 :  22:25:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mate of mine's down your way. Had a call on Glis. Went to Death Wish. They said, 'Sure. Here's a lisence. Cage trap them and shoot them with a .22 '

I read of a so called " Professional Pester ", in the press, who went exactly the same route.

Of course, both these Buffoons will, any time now, be cut down in a hale of Armed Response Squad bullets, in their clients hallways. Mm.

Mheanwhile; Here's what ye after. See how warily he's eyeing those handy lenghs of timber? Perhaps he has a premonition? :


Beat It!





Give It Some Stick!



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Matt the Rat
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197 Posts

Posted - 05 Dec 2005 :  22:49:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ooch!
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pestech
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United Kingdom
133 Posts

Posted - 05 Dec 2005 :  23:06:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just been reading an article on them, seems some area's do have control of them, must be near me as this is where they are most at large, so i think obtaining a liecence to trap and dispatch should be easliy obtained if need be. customer says he's sure its squirrles but looking at a photo of the glis glis he could easily be mistaken, funny how they curl the tail over thier heads the same as a squirrel when in fear!
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Northerner
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United Kingdom
109 Posts

Posted - 05 Dec 2005 :  23:37:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Send a message to Rome- tell 'em to send the ninth legion over. Romans ate tons of em; methinks Romans brought em here in the first place. Typical. If you cant beat the hairy Brits, drive them out by infesting their thatches. In the old Celtic languages, Boudicca was the Iceni for "woman who hates dormice".
In the old latin, Boudicca was translated as " woman whose thatch is too tight". Make of it all what you will. I'm off to bed!
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pestech
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United Kingdom
133 Posts

Posted - 05 Dec 2005 :  23:55:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
your quite right there northerner, the romans did bring them here to start with, but the Rothschilds bout them back to Tring at the turn of the century, then released them into the wild on Tring Common.
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Fenn Man
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Posted - 06 Dec 2005 :  00:11:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I heard ~ must have been on Radio 4 and thus aeons ago ~ that those dirty romans used to put them into little clay pots. They sealed them in and fed them something or other. Something quite nice, anyway.

Purpose wasn't so sweet though. Seems they gorged them on this what ever it was till, I don't know, their livers balloned or they simply grew fat as lard?

Anyway, once their fattened little furry bodies had filled the entire contour of the clay bowl they lived in? Into the sodding Oven with it! For pitys sake! Poor little creature baked - alive - and burst and came out as quite the delicacy!

No wonder they died out.


Romans, I mean.
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Northerner
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United Kingdom
109 Posts

Posted - 06 Dec 2005 :  22:01:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's a relationship here between claypot baked dormice and clay baked hedgehogs, methinks. Were the Romans related to the Pikeys??
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pestech
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Dec 2005 :  22:50:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lol romanies derived from asia, and also rumoured to be from egyption descent, allthough some of thier habbits seem to be quite simular, must be the roma lifestyle

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Fenn Man
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Posted - 06 Dec 2005 :  23:20:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pestech

lol romanies derived from asia, and also rumoured to be from egyption descent




The Roma, I can assure ye, are of Indian descent. I forget which quarter, but it is known.

That stuff about 'Egyptions' ? LOL! We (England) once had a King who really liked the Roma. They entertained him and he took a shine to them. By way of self explanation, they told him they hailed from the land of " Little Egypt ". Thus - so legend seems to have it - he called them his " Little Egyptions ". Some say that title became b@stardised into ' Gypsy's '.

Hedgehogs in balls of clay? That's not quite a myth. But it's on a par with keeping a pig in the back garden. It used to get done, when there were such conditions as were conducive. Nowadays hedgehogs are cooked by much smaller fires and so are treated little differantly from any other form of fireside meat.

Big difference with the Romans being; the Roma at least despatched the poor buggers first! (Hedgehogs. Not Glis )

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Northerner
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United Kingdom
109 Posts

Posted - 06 Dec 2005 :  23:48:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry mate, *****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************. Amazing what you can fit into a merc estate. Not that I have any adverse feelings to these delightful people, you understand.
True Romanies travelled out of Northern India and across Eastern and central Europe, picking up a fair bit of culture from Hungary and suchlike places, where they took many traditions from the likes of the Magyars, Avar and Black Sea nations around Sarmatia.

Edited by - Matt the Rat on 08 Dec 2005 01:06:29
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Fenn Man
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Posted - 07 Dec 2005 :  00:05:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As I'm sure you'll always be what you are, Steve


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pestech
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United Kingdom
133 Posts

Posted - 07 Dec 2005 :  00:19:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The term "Pikey"

From the English "turnpike", the place where itinerent travellers and thieves would camp near a settlement.

Pikey is not a racial group, the term is used to describe anyone who lives in a caravan or shares the same values and "culture" of "the travelling community", and whose main sources of income are as follows:



Edited by - Matt the Rat on 08 Dec 2005 00:37:00
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ben
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Posted - 07 Dec 2005 :  00:22:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


you learn as you go

Edited by - ben on 08 Dec 2005 00:10:47
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Dusty
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Australia
152 Posts

Posted - 07 Dec 2005 :  02:18:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
PMSL @ pestech.
That is something that seems to have died out in OZ. I know they were about when I was a kid, knocking on doors wanting to bless your house etc,(casing the joint) but it's decades since I sighted a one.

Don't feed them, get Rid of them
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BRY
Junior Member

United Kingdom
59 Posts

Posted - 07 Dec 2005 :  09:15:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pestec alot travellers (romanys) not like that, its the irish pikeys who are the trouble. So don't tar all with same brush mate.
Bry (married to a romany)
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pestech
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United Kingdom
133 Posts

Posted - 07 Dec 2005 :  09:25:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bry was only meant as a bit of banter mate, i grew up in a scrap yard meslef and have known alot of travlers all my life, irish and english, one of me best mates mum is a romany,also knew old tucker dunn aka lee very well who died last year , im well aware of the fact that not all travelrs are bad people,infact most of them ive met have always been polite and curtious, and i could even be mistaken for a hedge mumper meself at times so please dont take it personaly mate

Edited by - pestech on 07 Dec 2005 09:28:06
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BRY
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Dec 2005 :  13:04:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
no probs mate , just thought i'd stick up for the wifes crowd lol
She read the post as i was reading it for u lol
Bry ( wanna buy a dawg)
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