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Tomo
Starting Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 11:42:55
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Do you need to be X MI5 to be a member of the UKPCO inner circle?
Simple Answer NO
We are an open and transparent organisation, if we were not and we were running a hidden agenda I would not be a member.
What exactly is it you want to know?
We are a self help group and we would like to raise the profile of pest control, move away from our forum and go to the home page this will tell you what we are about our aims etc.
Any further info required please do not hesitate to ask.
Regard's Tomo |
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merlin
Starting Member
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 12:51:09
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I agree bickering doesn't do any good however there are obviously underlying issues here that need to be resolved. These issues appear to stem from the forming/rules of UKPCO and the apparent bending of these rules. As a potential member of UKPCO I am very interested in these accusations.
I think it more appropriate to let this debate run its course, with any luck the issues can be resolved and the discussion move on to the "working together" part of the title that doesn't appear to have had much discussion yet.
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Edited by - merlin on 03 Jan 2007 12:51:36 |
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andyb
Senior Member
United Kingdom
238 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 14:36:05
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If you would care to post your questions ref the UKPCO either here or at the UKPCO forum location, I will endeavour to answer them, if I can not, then one of the other members will possibly be able to.
The orginal post was to show that I am trying to help to improve the "The working together" statement that Nick uses, yes I agree that we should be ALL working to one goal.
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ABPest
Senior Member
United Kingdom
152 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 15:57:35
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James D. I have now posted on the UKPCO site, as I agree with Iain's request. I am sure you will catch up with it there.
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Tomo
Starting Member
United Kingdom
3 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 16:15:24
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Merlin,
Thank you for your reply, I am not aware of any underlying issues but there does appear to be some conflict whether this is a clash of personalities or to much being read into previous postings I honestly don�t know.
If anyone is aware of misconduct from any official of the UKPCO any issue raised will be investigated. I totally agree that public bickering does no good whatsoever to any one of us in the industry or the industry as a whole.
In regard to "working together" I feel we all share a common aim with the best intentions for the wellbeing and improvement of our Industry.
I also agree that while this posting remains to be conducted in a civilised manor it would be inappropriate to cut it short as we may be able to resolve some of the afore mentioned problems.
The key to this may be learning to communicate better with each other.
I hope this posting is of help in clarifying my viewpoint which I believe is common point of view shared by our members
Regard's Tomo |
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NickA
Hyperactive Member
United Kingdom
700 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 16:30:28
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Here is one link;
http://www.pestcontrolportal.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=345
I also congratulated UKPCO on their mole training day, is that knocking?
http://www.pestcontrolportal.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=337
I have spoken to Andy in person and via phone, spoken to Tony Baker also Adrian my view may not be the same, but knock them! No founding of it maybe but that is also an unanswered question, was it a mickey take against BPCA forum? But then it was going to be live a lot earlier before Andy and Hunter Zero problem at BPCA forum.
If Andy wants to help NPTA more power to his elbow,remember there are two sides to every story that is often forgotten by some people.
Pests are smart - We're smarter |
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Paulf
Junior Member
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 17:23:05
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I have been involved with the ukpco from the very start, i can asure you that there is no hidden agenda.
Why should the UKPCO provide answers to those who have sniped from the start. Some people just cant tolerate change. |
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NickA
Hyperactive Member
United Kingdom
700 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 17:33:09
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Originally posted by Paulf
I have been involved with the ukpco from the very start, i can asure you that there is no hidden agenda.
Why should the UKPCO provide answers to those who have sniped from the start. Some people just cant tolerate change.
So why do we ask the questions and not get replies.
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Edited by - NickA on 03 Jan 2007 17:35:34 |
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Paulf
Junior Member
23 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 17:39:45
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You are wrong Nick, Whilst I signed up at the mole course on 6th of June I was at the very first meeting, held at Ross on Wye.
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NickA
Hyperactive Member
United Kingdom
700 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 17:55:58
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You will notice that I removed that date before you posted Paul,I saw you joined in Jan.
Apologies.
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merlin
Starting Member
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 18:29:34
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All my concerns have been addressed and I have applied for membership of UKPCO. I am happy that no wrong doing has taken place. As an outsider looking in it look like Iain was preventing these questions being answered, so I assumed there was something to hide. I know this is not the case and apologize to Iain for casting dispersions.
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Matt the Rat
Moderator
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 18:43:29
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The original questions where not suggesting any 'wrong doing' but were asked to try and help find out why another organisation was needed, and who was funding it. If everything is now sorted out and transparent, then answer the questions originally asked.
As far as Andy joining the NPTA is concerned; its great news! (What took you so long?)
I still think that UKPCO is not offering anything the NPTA or BPCA couldn't do with the right help and support from people who are obviously well meaning and highly motivated, but I still have concerns about people leaving the two industry organisations to join the UKPCO. If either of these organisations loose membership it weakens the whole industry.
I am pleased that UKPCO is making a success of itself and look forward to hearing more about it on this public forum. How many fully paid up members do you now have? |
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Tomo
Starting Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 18:51:21
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Hi nICK i TRUST YOU ARE KEEPING WELL, woops sorry about the caps lock. Nick I cannot speak up for some off the points you have raised but you know me and I feel confident that you will trust my integrity. I certainly have no hidden agenda.
You will note my absence from this forum for a very long time.
This was as a direct result of the spat on the BPCA forum I was insulted as a result of some one kindly sticking up for me, friends jumped in to defend me further and the guy who kicked it all off flipped out others hijacked the forum site and it got really daft.
I was insulted in private and also had a little bit of physical agrow to boot.
Nothing a dead leg in the eye couldn�t fix though. But if this is what its about I will certainly have to crawl back under my rock.
Lets pray we don�t find any of to-days forums finding themselves going down the same route.
I know you mean well and you have a genuine love of pest control at times we have to bite the bullet and not over react to a throwaway remark or read two much into things.
Lets get ourselves sorted out and pull together for are common aims
Regard's Tomo |
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NickA
Hyperactive Member
United Kingdom
700 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 19:11:37
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Tomo, I have no problem with UK, my problem was why wasn't the energy put into the Associations already there.
The joining up e mails and the change of direction, changing of rules before Grandfather rights were used.
The abuse I have suffered because I ask questions unlike some I do not hide my identity or email address I ask the questions out in the open, not hidden away.
I've e mailed Andy. Also I've been accused of things I frankly have not done you have to ask why am I singled out.
Funny people who have publically made a point of ditching NPTA still have link and membership badge on their website, and no I didn't report them over yellow page ad either.
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dennis
New Member
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 19:24:08
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NickA
Hyperactive Member
United Kingdom
700 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 09:20:10
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Originally posted by dennis
Oops guess Id better hurry up and get my web manager to put that right, should have known I am being watched along with Paul f
LOL @ Dennis and I never said who, still nice to know he watches the posts here as well.
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Membership and working together.
