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vermincontrol
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 19:02:51
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You say that it is a mystery, a few years ago i went to a house and we could not find the point of entry but to our disbelief the mice were coming down the chimney from the attic, we all stood in amazement as this mouse came out of the fireplace went right round the room and then back where he came from, on closer inspection of the chimney stack there was a small hole and there was the entry point.
It just goes to show that they come from anywhere.
Steve
It Has 2 Be Done Pest Control
www.ithas2bedone.co.uk
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nigel
Senior Member
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Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 19:18:12
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Bigbully
Junior Member
United Kingdom
39 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jan 2007 : 09:22:43
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Nigel - I feel sure that Miss LoLo at this stage would prefer accurate advice as she seems to have gone from pillar to post already and doesn't need to start chasing LA duties that don't exist - hence my note that the section of the Act to which you refer provides a power rather than a duty or obligation.
We, and others, have debated the LA role before and I do not intend to get into it again. This is about getting the correct advice and information to Miss LoLo and helping her to get her problem solved. However, in this case if the LA were to follow their immediate legal obligation then they would be serving an enforcement notice on her requiring her to take action or explain why to a magistrate! OK, I would imagine that they would also be serving a corresponding enforcement notice on the housing provider but LA's take the view that potentially criminalising people like Miss LoLo is not a helpful first step in resolving most matters of this type.
Miss LoLo - an MP has virtually no influence on a LA. Contact your councillors as, if they are anything like ours, officers will jump through hoops once they get involved. Good luck. |
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nigel
Senior Member
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Posted - 11 Jan 2007 : 12:36:16
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they would also be serving a corresponding enforcement notice on the housing provider
Which according to the customer is her own LA!!!!!!!
The notice would need to provide specific information that addresses the cause of the infestation, such as proofing or hygeine issues. As proofing of the property is a maintenance issue which is the responcibilty of the landlord or property owner, which in this case is the responcibility of the LA.
Having help serve several notices on customers in the past, you need evidence to prove it is the customer who is failing to take action to address the problem. Miss lolo has done more than is required of her in law, she has reported the problem to her LA, she has sort help from her LA to rid herself of the problem, she has even paid out of her own pocket for further help in treatments and proofing the property, which is the responcibility of her landlord.
How we bait up a property can help lead us back to possible point of entry, has this been done and what was the conclussion? |
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blatta
Senior Member
United Kingdom
134 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jan 2007 : 22:27:19
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to try to solve the access mystery, try putting little patches of flour down in the rooms where the activity occurs most and smoothing it over with a knife or ruler. As the mice run over it you will see the footprints. over a short period of time you should be able to build up a picture of their movements and hopefully focus in on the most active area. Eventually it should help you find the access point(s).
If you have carpeted areas try putting the flour down on a piece of card. You could try non scented talc powder instead of flour.Try holding a torch at an angle to help show up the footprints.
Totally safe and may help solve the access problem. |
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Miss LoLo
Starting Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Jan 2007 : 22:11:02
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My house has had "bait" in it since the winter after i moved in 2 and a half years ago! I have to ave them out every year for this problem.
They lay bait around my home, under the bath panel, behind washing macine - basically where ever i have told them i have seen/heard them but still after 2 and a half years no one can figure out where they are coming in from....
Im sorry if i seem a bit dim but the discussion between yourself (nigel) and bigbully isnt really helping me as i havent a clue what an "LA" is   |
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Miss LoLo
Starting Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Jan 2007 : 22:13:15
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Blatta thanks for the advise though i not sure about sprinkling flour or any other food on the floor as i dont want to encourage them in any way...
I may give the talc a go, have tried everything else  |
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nigel
Senior Member
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Posted - 15 Jan 2007 : 22:35:01
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Sorry an LA is your local Authority (council).
When the baits were laid, do you know which onces got eaten? Those closest to the point of entry will be taken first and usually the most will go from that bait point, as the mice make their way around the property, they will eat less from those furthest from the point of entry and by the time they get to some, they are so full they will not eat from them but will try to bury the bait.
A treatment in a property where the ingress can not be found would involve swamping the place on the first visit with baits in all the places as you rightly say, you have seen or heard them or evidence that they have been there.
If for instance all the bait upstairs is touched but none down stairs is taken, you concentrate your efforts up stairs. This could mean they are coming out of the loft space for instance.
So you bait the loft in such a manner as to try and establish which area of the loft they orginate in. Is it the front or the back of the house? or are they coming from the left hand side or right? |
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Jacqui
Starting Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Feb 2007 : 18:25:37
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Originally posted by Miss LoLo
I have a 3 year old child in the house so quite frankly and im sorry if this does offend people but i am not concerned with how they are caught and disposed of.
I have been living with these VERMIN now for over 2 years and have had more than enough of them crawling over my house and my daughters toys. I will use ANY means possible to get rid of them!!!
I have had snap traps down and poison but have only managed to ever catch one using the glue traps so for me - who isnt concerned for the welfare of a mouse but for te wefare of my daughter - they are great!!
I couldn't agree with you more 
We have the same problem as yourself I have posted a thread earlier. We are now haveing to sleep downstairs as I can hear them in the bedroom floorboards. We have an empty house next door which doesn't help.
We have only caught one mouse yesterday which got half it's head stuck in the snap trap what a nightmare.
The council won't start bringing our floorboards up as we are privite rented and the landlord said that it's our problem. We can't afford any private firms. So for now we are trying to do it ourselves it was our first time using the difenacoum poison on Wednesday and since then the mice have gone mad?
How are you getting on with your problem? |
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splatman
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Feb 2007 : 19:27:30
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Hello Miss LoLo,
Since you have had an environmental health officer inspect your property, do you know if they carried out an assessment under the Housing Health & Safety Rating System? If they haven't ask them to do it. If your property scores a high enough rating, they will have to carry out immediate remedial action. If they do not, you can take them to a residential property tribunal as they are your landlords. Hope this helps a bit. Mail me if you would like any further info. |
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